Monday May 14, 2018   |   Joshua Pollock

‘People who are close to you will notice the changes in you’ Joshua

I was lucky to meet Joshua Pollock, a Heartfulness Meditation trainer and practitioner in Bhopal as he was in the city to launch his book, ‘The Heartfulness Way’. Co-authored by Joshua, the book is also written by Kamlesh D Patel, popularly known as Daaji, the fourth Global Guide of Heartfulness.

About Joshua Pollock: He is a Heartfulness trainer and practitioner. Other than that he is also an accomplished Western classical violinist who has performed & taught across the world. His solo renditions can be heard in numerous AR Rahman original soundtracks, including Ghajini, Delhi 6, Raavan, Yuvvraaj, Blue, VinnaithaandiVaruvaayaa & Raavanan. At present he is based in New Delhi and calls India his second home.

The interview:

What is 'heartfulness' meditation?

Heartfulness Meditation helps us clear the subconscious, so that our conscious being changes automatically. It helps us to be calmer, less reactive and spread more love. But that doesn't mean that the meditation eradicates such emotions as sadness or anger. Rather, meditation helps channelise these emotions and help us deal with them patiently.

What do we do with the emotion called 'anger'?

Anger is actually an emotion which excites us to have change. When we use this emotion in a constructive way, it always helps. But, if we use it with 'I-ness', we have to face the repercussions of the emotion. As an example, when a mother shows her anger to her kid, it is for the child's betterment. As soon as the child understands this, the mother's anger goes back to Mother Nature and it does not affect anyone (adversely). However, if someone uses anger with 'I-ness', it will definitely affect his or her personality and behaviour.

Can we practice spirituality within a family?

In ancient India, people went to the jungles to practise, or find, spirituality, or one's inner self. But now, living in a fast-paced world, we can practise it within our family life. We often find excuses to avoid practising it, saying it takes a lot of time. But we need to understand that Heartfulness Meditation helps us balance everything and, if we learn that, we can surely spend quality time with family, thereby improving our relationships, too. We have a body and a soul, right? Both have their own demands. Both need to be attended to.

Tell us about the meditation process

When one starts any kind of meditation, they do it with a motive — either to change themselves, or to change certain behaviour of theirs (like smoking or drinking). But Heartfulness Meditation is an inside-out process. For an example, I was not alchoholic, but I drank daily when I was in college. But, when I started meditating, I automatically left drinking and also turned vegetarian. The urge vanished. And, when my parents saw the changes in me, they, too, started practising it.

So you did not have to convince your parents?

No one needs convincing, your parents know you best…the worst and the best…they must have noticed some positive changes in me that made them take up ‘heartfulness’ meditations. People who are close to you will notice the changes.

What problems will first time practitioners face while following ‘heartfulness’?

There is no problem as such; any problem is their self created problem. If you are doing things right, you will feel at home while practicing. One will feel changes every day you meditate, subtle changes will occur each day.

What kind of changes?

You sit and meditate, you feel peaceful. Next time you sit and meditate you feel peaceful. Every day you meditate there is something slightly new, those different experiences now changes your awareness your consciousness, they in turn change the way you handle things, in a very subtle way. There will be day to day to day, gradual changes that you may not even notice. There is no standard of measurements of changes that occur, except for some basic bodily changes which we all know like for example generosity…

When you start meditation qualities that are purer, calmer and peaceful will start downloading.

But changing oneself is not easy. Right?

Right. If it were Lord Krishna would have given all the Gita gyan to Duryodhan. When Lord Krishna reached out to him Duryodhan says ‘I know what is right but doing the right thing is not in my nature, I also know what is wrong but leaving it is not in my nature’. So, how do the meditations work? This is all there in the book. Our conscious manifestations are a result of the subconscious weeds that we are carrying in our mind. What ‘Heartfulness’ meditations does is, it removes those weeds from the subconscious so that our conscious manifestations are purer. The garden is healthy.

When do you practice your meditation?

I do some meditation in the morning and once in the evening as well, it’s a cleansing process right. So what you gather throughout the day needs to be cleansed before ending the day.

You are a musician; did you feel any change in your music too?

I noticed a drastic change in my music, which improved vastly. The change was overnight. When you are in a meditative state how can anything not be meditation?

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